# Idiot Smackdown!

As a followup to Yay Free Traffic, I've decided to actually go through the negative posts about me on the Objectivist forum and rip them to shreds. I'm not going to be so kind as to link back to them, though, but the url is: forum.objectivismonline.net/index.php?showtopic=18153

Let's get ready to rumble! (Not that I care if any of them read this; I happen to have just finished my major finals so I have some free time and need amusement.) I'll start with Amaroq / Steve's post, in pieces:

If you've talked to me for any significant amount of time, you probably know that I have a roommate who used to be a fledgling Objectivist, who has become vehemently anti-Objectivist, and even anti-philosophy in his quest to obliterate Objectivism.

Maybe I've gone a bit overboard with the above statement, but with things he writes in his blog (which I only decided to actually peruse a few days ago), it's hard for me not to take insult.

I was never an Objectivist, but I did subscribe to many views. I still share some views, but I've moved on from the swamp. Obliterating Objectivism is a futile quest, and it's not mine; I just find it immensely entertaining to bash. Philosophy in general is fun to bash, too, because at least 90% of it is garbage. See Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil for a great look at that.

I've cherry-picked the most offensive articles I could find and arranged them by general time period in which they were posted.

Glad you're giving my blog a fair treatment. :)

Most of these articles directly attack and insult me, though they don't name me any more explicitly than "my friend". and one or two name me in more subtle ways. (The Lazy and Stupid one mentions someone who only knows PHP and considers himself a good programmer, in obvious reference to myself.)

I have indirectly referenced you a few times, doing so indirectly to save you embarrassment. In this post, I had already said all of that in the IM, and I thought you had conceded. I know I showed you the post after I wrote it. You said "Bob. XD". Your incorrect views are great blog material, because you're not the only one who subscribes to them and it helps to have an actual example. In this post, you provided a great case study for all the people out there who irrationally hold onto beliefs for irrational reasons, often because they think it goes against their philosophy or religion. I also think you should learn harder stuff instead of wasting time in easy philosophy, because it's more beneficial in the long run. In this post, it was actually inspired from a classmate who claimed he never read anything long if he could help it. Ever. Same with writing. There are a lot of people out there who mask their ineptitude with claims of laziness, and until you prove me otherwise, you're one of them. I fully believe you could do more--the only thing holding you back is yourself. I have many books available for you to read and learn. Stupidity isn't a lifelong illness.

But even without counting that they are attacks against me, most of them are apparently vehement attacks against Objectivism, or against philosophy, obviously because Objectivism is a philosophy.

Objectivism is a cult with some good ideas but many bad ideas and especially bad reasoning for why to have those ideas in the first place. It's fun to mock because of that. It's also fun to mock philosophy-in-general, but I'm repeating myself. (It's fun to mock mathematicians and programmers as well--hell, it's just fun to mock, and if anyone talks to me for any period of time it becomes obvious I'm an ass and I like to mock things, but you shouldn't take me too seriously.)

I'd post comments on every article I mentioned to at least clear up mistakes he made, but I grow weary of debating someone who so stubbornly refuses to listen to reason. I also have come to feel that the more I debate him, the more harm I'm actually doing. He appears to be focusing on either mistakes I made in my defenses of Objectivism, or on simply twisting my arguments, using everything I say as fuel for his fire.

Show me your "reason". You praise reason, but you don't use it or learn about it. Maybe instead of trying to show some of your views are right (which they aren't), you should try and show some of my views are wrong. The debate has been pretty one-sided for a reason.

He's told me that he must consider me evil for the fact that I would kill 100 people in self-defense. Now I believe I must consider him evil for these things he's written.

Actually, it was a billion people. For a 100 people I'd call you morally confused and not very Good. There are not all that many things I bestow the label Evil for in all its meaning, though I may use it to indicate it's slightly worse than regular old bad.

Just wanted to vent about this and get it off my shoulders. What do you guys think of those "articles"? I'm curious about any responses you may have. I'd also just loooove to see his comments sections swarmed with more learned Objectivists than myself, cutting his obviously fallacious arguments to shreds.

Venting on a public forum isn't a good idea if you mind the other person reading it. =P And I giggled when I read the last bit: "His arguments are so obviously fallacious! Help me prove it! MARCH OBJECTIVISTS ON THIS NOBODY!"

On to the next post.

I wouldn't consider him evil. I'd consider him stupid. That's the only thing you can consider a person who actively refuses to think and sneers at those who do. That is, if you consider him at all - which you shouldn't.

Ouch. Do you know what it means to think? I suppose if "to think" means "to not subscribe to Objectivism", I suppose you're right. But unless you're word-hijacking (as all Objectivists do), I think you need to think about what "to think" means.

No one else here should bother with him either. Swarming his posts doesn't make him look bad, or rather, it doesn't make him alone look bad. It makes us all look bad, like immature children. Doing what you seem to suggest would make Objectivists look silly and childish, which is no way to make other people who don't refuse to think take Objectivism seriously.

Wise words. Seriously. You're spot-on with that. Not that I would have cared if the forum came after me, since it would have just proved several finer points, but you're right it will make Objectivism look much worse than it already does. :)

Next post:

Why are you still living with this dolt? Do you have the means to move out and find another roommate? I'd be gone as quickly as possible without any warning to him. His complete and utter lack of respect for you deserves like in kind.